{"id":3322,"date":"2021-05-26T19:53:11","date_gmt":"2021-05-26T23:53:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/artsci.case.edu\/magazine\/?p=3322"},"modified":"2021-07-09T14:59:28","modified_gmt":"2021-07-09T18:59:28","slug":"on-an-equal-footing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/artsci.case.edu\/magazine\/2021\/on-an-equal-footing\/","title":{"rendered":"On an Equal Footing"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_3429\" style=\"width: 594px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3429\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-3429 img-responsive\" src=\"https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08142714\/Yoshida_Kisley-600x578.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"584\" height=\"563\" srcset=\"https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08142714\/Yoshida_Kisley-600x578.jpg 600w, https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08142714\/Yoshida_Kisley-768x740.jpg 768w, https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08142714\/Yoshida_Kisley-1170x1127.jpg 1170w, https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08142714\/Yoshida_Kisley-500x482.jpg 500w, https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08142714\/Yoshida_Kisley.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 584px) 100vw, 584px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3429\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">From left: Shawn Yoshida (CWR \u201821) places a sample on a nanoscale microscope built by Lydia Kisley\u2019s lab group. He completed his award-winning undergraduate research under Kisley\u2019s mentorship. Photo by Roger Mastroianni<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Life came full circle for <strong>Lydia Kisley <\/strong>when she started mentoring students in her Case Western Reserve lab. This university, after all, was the first place she ever found a genuine mentor for herself.<\/p>\n<p>At the time, Kisley was a senior at a Cleveland-area high school\u2014Mentor High School, as it happens. Through a program that enabled students to explore possible career paths, she spent time in a pathology laboratory at CWRU School of Medicine. Kisley remembers going in with tempered expectations; she wasn\u2019t sure how she would be received. But to her surprise, her mentor\u2014a fifth-year graduate student\u2014immediately engaged her in the lab\u2019s mission.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI was just a high school student,\u201d says Kisley, now the Warren E. Rupp Assistant Professor in the Department of Physics. \u201cMy mentor could have sent me to the corner to read papers and do nothing. But the first thing she said to me was, \u2018Let\u2019s go grab a coffee!\u2019 She got me some Starbucks, and we started talking about the project. I thought that was so cool.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The experience had a lasting influence on Kisley. \u201cI consider undergraduates to be true members of my lab group,\u201d she says. \u201cThat\u2019s part of my mentoring philosophy. I spend time with mentees and converse with them, and we reach a point where we can be on an equal footing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>To Kisley, an egalitarian style of mentoring seems especially suited to the realm of science. \u201cResearch is about exploring the unknown,\u201d she explains. \u201cI don\u2019t have all the answers, just as students don\u2019t. A mentee might start out thinking that a mentor knows everything, because of the mentor\u2019s title or the difference in their ages. But that\u2019s not true.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Two recent CWRU alumni have benefited from Kisley\u2019s approach. <strong>Shawn Yoshida<\/strong>, who graduated this May with a Bachelor of Arts in physics, and <strong>Hannah Messenger<\/strong>, who graduated in January 2021 with a Bachelor of Science in physics and a Bachelor of Arts in music, carried out their senior research projects in Kisley&#8217;s lab. When they presented their work at Intersections\u2014the undergraduate research symposium hosted by SOURCE (Support of Undergraduate Research and Creative Endeavors)\u2014in December 2020, they won first and second prize in the physical sciences category.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI felt Shawn and Hannah really deserved that recognition, given how hard they\u2019ve worked and the grit they\u2019ve shown,\u201d Kisley says. \u201cIt\u2019s been very rewarding to see them grow as researchers.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Yoshida and Messenger, in turn, give Kisley much of the credit for their achievements.\u00a0 \u201cShe\u2019s very interested in each individual student,\u201d Yoshida says. \u201cShe makes us each the best we can be.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cShe made sure I had the help I needed when I needed it\u2014and not just for my senior project,\u201d Messenger says. \u201cI felt very comfortable coming to her with anything, whether it was questions about life after college or asking for recommendation letters. That was huge.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>Seeing It All<\/h3>\n<p>Yoshida\u2019s connection with Kisley goes back to Spring 2019, when Kisley, then a new faculty member, was starting her lab. He had heard she would give students the chance to work on their own projects, not projects already launched by graduate students or postdocs. \u201cAt that point, I knew I wanted to do something on the experimental side,\u201d Yoshida says. \u201cSo this looked like a great opportunity.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3431\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3431\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3431 img-responsive\" src=\"https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08142942\/Yoshida_Kisley_figure_web-600x364.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"364\" srcset=\"https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08142942\/Yoshida_Kisley_figure_web-600x364.jpg 600w, https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08142942\/Yoshida_Kisley_figure_web-768x466.jpg 768w, https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08142942\/Yoshida_Kisley_figure_web-1170x710.jpg 1170w, https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08142942\/Yoshida_Kisley_figure_web-500x303.jpg 500w, https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08142942\/Yoshida_Kisley_figure_web.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3431\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">In this illustration, based on images Shawn Yoshida produced with the Kisley lab\u2019s microscope, molecules diffuse through the extracellular matrix\u2014the space between cells.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Born in Tokyo and raised in Illinois, Yoshida found his nascent interests in physics and biology dovetailing into experimental biophysics once he began his studies at Case Western Reserve. \u201cPhysics lets us see the mathematical backdrop behind things we see in everyday life,\u201d he says. \u201cAnd biology is a way to make a day-to-day impact in the real world through health and medicine.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Before he met Kisley, Yoshida had worked as a lab technician assistant for Associate Professor <strong>Brian McDermott<\/strong> in the Department of Otolaryngology at CWRU School of Medicine. Coming in with this training, Yoshida joined Kisley in building her lab from the ground up.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen I first joined the group, we didn\u2019t have an actual lab to work with, so we kind of commandeered a lab that wasn\u2019t being used,\u201d Yoshida recalls, laughing. \u201cWe did a lot of setting up equipment.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cShawn was actually my first group member,\u201d Kisley says. \u201cHe was there when we were working in a temporary lab environment, trying to hunt down clean water we could use. He was still there when we moved to my current lab, and then during COVID, when he adjusted to working on computer-based simulations instead of collecting experimental data. He\u2019s seen it all.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For a student with Yoshida\u2019s interests, Kisley provided a stimulating research setting. Her lab group blends physics, biology and chemistry to study soft materials\u2014a category that includes liquids, polymers and many biological materials\u2014at the nanoscale level. This work has the potential to address challenges in both industry and medicine.<\/p>\n<p>Yoshida\u2019s work focused on the rich biophysics of the extracellular matrix\u2014the squishy space between the cells that make up all of the body\u2019s organs and tissues. This matrix, a critical but fairly understudied part of human physiology, has a significant part to play in diseases such as cancer. For instance, a build-up of material around tumor cells can make it more difficult for drugs to reach and kill them. \u201cWe know once the drug reaches the cell, it\u2019s going to work,\u201d Yoshida says, \u201cbut we don\u2019t know how to get the drug to the cell.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For his senior project, Yoshida simulated microscope observations of fluorescently tagged molecules\u2014scientists call them \u201creporters\u201d\u2014inside a hydrogel, a soft material that conveniently mimics the extracellular matrix. The simulations indicated that microscopy can detect small yet significant differences between the reporters\u2019 movement when they travel near the hydrogel\u2019s boundaries and their movement through the gel\u2019s interior spaces. Being able to capture this miniscule level of detail bodes well for the in-depth characterization of the dynamics of drugs and other molecules in actual tissues.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cShawn displayed tremendous determination in figuring out what these simulations could show us,\u201d says Kisley. \u201cHe has the makings of a strong researcher.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>Prepared for Anything<\/h3>\n<p>Unlike Yoshida, Messenger wasn\u2019t thinking of Kisley as a potential mentor when they first met. In early 2019, she invited Kisley to speak to the Women in Physics and Astronomy Club, a student group she\u2019d co-founded, and Kisley accepted. Later that year, when Messenger was preparing for her senior research project, she wrote to Kisley again, this time to ask about joining her lab.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3433\" style=\"width: 508px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3433\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-3433 img-responsive\" src=\"https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08143202\/Hannah-Messenger_web-600x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"498\" height=\"374\" srcset=\"https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08143202\/Hannah-Messenger_web-600x450.jpg 600w, https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08143202\/Hannah-Messenger_web-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08143202\/Hannah-Messenger_web-1170x878.jpg 1170w, https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08143202\/Hannah-Messenger_web-500x375.jpg 500w, https:\/\/artscimedia.case.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/147\/2021\/05\/08143202\/Hannah-Messenger_web.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 498px) 100vw, 498px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3433\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hannah Messenger (CWR \u201821) studied abroad in Dublin, and made a side trip to Venice, before joining Lydia Kisley\u2019s lab to complete her senior research project. Photo by Kyra Armstrong<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\u201cI had a friend who did a senior project with Lydia,\u201d Messenger recalls. \u201cHe said: \u2018She\u2019s great to work with. She works you hard, but you learn.\u2019 So I thought, \u2018Good!\u2019\u201d Naturally, Kisley responded to her request by suggesting they meet for coffee.<\/p>\n<p>When Messenger came into the lab in January 2020, she already had substantial research experience, including a summer internship at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (where, coincidentally, Kisley had been a postdoc). Also, she had interned at Quality Electrodynamics (QED), a company founded by <strong>Hiroyuki Fujita <\/strong>(GRS \u201998, physics), adjunct professor in the Department of Physics. QED designs and manufactures equipment for MRI scanners; Messenger created and built a circuit board to test prototypes of radiofrequency coils. Although she had never taken an engineering class, her physics background equipped her for the challenge. \u201cThe physics degree prepares you for anything,\u201d Messenger says. \u201cIt gives you a toolset for how to approach a problem.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>From the outset, Messenger found herself integrated into Kisley\u2019s weekly lab meetings, where mentees participated and made presentations about their activities. Messenger was often late, but she had a good excuse: She played in the CWRU\/University Circle Symphony Orchestra and other ensembles, and she had to rush across campus from rehearsals. \u201cI remember Hannah had to lug her French horn case to our meetings,\u201d Kisley says, laughing.<\/p>\n<p>By March 2020, Messenger had completed her safety training and started doing benchwork. She was planning to use the lab\u2019s custom-built microscope to study corrosion in industrial materials\u2014a major focus area for Kisley\u2019s group. But then the pandemic hit, shutting down the campus. Messenger, like Yoshida, had to switch to computational research, which she could do from her family home in Belmont, Massachusetts.<\/p>\n<p>Over the next several months, Messenger built a computational model showing that the movements of fluorescent reporters tracked under a microscope can reveal corrosion\u2019s real-time dynamics, a molecule-by-molecule process of breakdown that is poorly understood at such a granular level. \u201cOver these very short periods of time and microscopic scales, corrosion really hasn\u2019t been studied that much,\u201d Messenger says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHannah accomplished quite a bit in my lab after just one year,\u201d Kisley says. \u201cSuccess in a mentorship is a two-way street, and I\u2019m thankful to have had the chance to work with such good students as Hannah and Shawn.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>Infinitely Helpful<\/h3>\n<p>While supporting her students through the research process, Kisley coached them on how to present their findings\u2014whether on Zoom or in person. She taught them to write straightforward text for a poster or PowerPoint slide, and to spruce it up with appealing images. She also shared techniques for confident, relaxed delivery. The students applied these lessons to their virtual presentations for the Intersections symposium. In addition, Yoshida took part in several professional conferences, all of which were conducted remotely.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI wouldn\u2019t have ever thought I\u2019d be able to speak at conferences,\u201d he says. \u201cLydia taught us so much because she is so good at science communication, not just to scientists but to the general public.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Yoshida will enter a doctoral program in biochemistry and molecular biophysics at California Institute of Technology this fall. \u201cI was lucky enough to have a lot of options for school, and that\u2019s definitely 99% thanks to Lydia,\u201d says Yoshida. \u201cShe\u2019s been infinitely helpful.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Messenger, meanwhile, has decided to pursue a master\u2019s degree in horn performance at the New England Conservatory of Music. Mentoring is just as important in music as in science, she points out, as many professional classical musicians give private lessons or coach youth chamber groups.<\/p>\n<p>As Messenger and Yoshida someday assume the mentor\u2019s role and tend to the next generation, their experiences with Kisley and others will surely inform their approach.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMentoring relationships have been so important for me, helping me grow and figure out where I\u2019m going,\u201d says Messenger. \u201cHelping other people out in that way is something I\u2019m excited to do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em>Adam Hadhazy is a freelance science writer in New Jersey.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Life came full circle for <strong>Lydia Kisley <\/strong>when she started mentoring students in her Case Western Reserve lab. 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